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Corporate Espionage in PC Hardware?
01:33 – Ggchb Gig ghb: “Steve how much dose corporate spying/personnel buying happen in the hardware world? Can a struggling fab/manufacturer just hire someone from a successful one and get all the secret techniques?”
Why Do Boards Still Have COM Ports?
05:41 – Qlum: “Why do cheaper motherboards often include outdated connectors long gone from their more expensive counterparts. For example the Asrock A320M-DGS a bottom of the barrel motherboard has a com and a print port. […] It clearly costs money to solder the connector yet it is only included in the lower margin cheaper motherboard.”
Too Many Fans Makes Cooling Worse?
07:22 – Coby Rickey: “Can too many case fans actually make your pc cooling worse?”
Downsides of Moving?
09:37 – NoryYesterday: “#askgn-questions What is the one downside of moving out of the GN Lair and into a commercial office? (Outside of paying a lease, and moving)”
Are You Honest About Not Being Under NDA?
10:58 – David: “There have been a few videos where you said you were specifically not under any NDA, and Linus has also said that in a few instances. Of course you can only speak for yourself, but are you actually honest about that then (not calling you a liar, just because of the whole NDA) or would you say that exactly because the NDA doesn’t allow you to talk about it? I know, complicated question, or my language just sucks.”
NVIDIA GTX vs. RTX Language?
12:02 – Modzy : “#askgn-questions What do you think about Nvidia finally changing the GTX branding on select new models of GPU’s to “Geforce RTX”. I feel we have been stuck on the “Geforce GTX” band wagon for so long that im actually really glad they are finally changing things up again. And as a note, i really do hope they at some point re-start their numbering so we dont end up with 5 digit skews one day. Also, hope they bring back the “Ultra” branding one day.”
Thoughts on CaseLabs?
14:29 – Demonmit1: “#askgn-questions @Steve Burke what is your thoughts on the recent CaseLabs announcement that they are closing permanently?”
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hey everyone welcome back to another Astra and this is the third one we're shooting for this series of them for this week the bonus episode will be on patreon.com slash gamers Nexus will have another one on the main channel and we're traveling internationally for the Nvidia event and for Gamescom which is all public at this point so I will be traveling for that after that you can expect a lot of news and other tests and things like that as we finalize our move into the new space so we should have some actual benchmark content coming out aside from the case reviews we've just published but anyway as always leave your questions for next episode in the comment section below if you have them we have a couple good ones for this week so we'll get through those and hopefully you can post some good ones maybe about the gamescom announcements in the comment section below for the next set of episodes before that this video is brought to you by the EVGA CLC 280 liquid cooler people ask me how I 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corporate spine or a personnel buy and happen in the hardware world can struggling fabrics or manufacturers just hire someone from a successful one and get all the secret techniques that's a big problem and a big concern and there are a lot of very uninformed comments and reply to this question so corporate espionage in the PC world happens all the time theft of trade secrets happens all the time we talked about it in a hardware new episode kind of recently where I think it was the Wall Street Journal had this huge feature piece on corporate espionage theft of trade secrets that's the intellectual property between fabrication plants specifically between memory suppliers and memory manufacturers so extremely common and as far as can you just hire someone and get all the secret techniques some of the comments below yours talked about there are NDA's well yeah there are but that doesn't really stop anything ideally it would but that's not how the world works and of course you can also sue anyone who you want anyone you want doesn't mean that you're gonna be successful in it in these instances because a lot of this stuff is international it kind of depends on where the different parties are based of whether the lawsuits are successful for inter actual property theft and stuff like that so I want to go through some of the stuff I talked about in that hardware news episode just in case you missed it be a bit of a recap for those of you saw but one of the things we talked about was there are instances in the I think it was again the Wall Street Journal article they talked about instances where try to base companies were stealing intellectual property from Taiwan based counterparts in the same industry and there have been several recent lawsuits that actually put people behind bars for stealing information from one plant moving it to another or from one manufacturer moving it to another particularly in the semiconductor space so very common and a couple of these examples so there's Shanghai Holly micro electronics corporation which infiltrated TSMC or Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company which many of you are likely familiar with as they make a lot of the parts that we use in our end of PC hardware so the shanghai harley micro electronics corp infiltrated TSMC and in doing so they were able to illegally access quote reams of trade secrets so big problem there the employee was implicated in this corporate espionage was sentenced to a suspended 18-month prison term for IP theft and recently also microns been in the news for a lot of the same stuff where micron had an engineer who was recorded by UMC the company the very same one that just had a preliminary in function placed upon it for plates on micron in China and that engineer has now been indicted on charges of trade secret theft and as he moved from micron to UMC taking those secrets with him so very common UMC is a taiwan-based competitor in this instance the illegally taken documents were used to design chips for a different company which we talked about in the hardware news episode and it's a Chinese semiconductor company called Fujian jinhua and that's a circuit company Nonya which you may know for being the smallest of the nand makers and dram makers they make a lot of the cashing chips that go on SSDs so Nadia recently sued one of its engineers for supply and manufacturing photographs to another competing company and that one was one that Wall Street Journal reported as being China's at largest state-owned chip maker so it's very common for IP theft and and trade secret theft and things like that to occur in this industry and no NDA's don't just stop it magically it's not really how people generally try not to get caught and if they don't catch you then an NDA doesn't really matter so a very common great question though and that uh that that article that we talked about the hardware news episode previously is a very good read if you're curious about that stuff it's very interesting very interesting comment read through next one Q Lamar clumb who says why did cheaper motherboards often include outdated connectors long gone from their more expensive counterparts for example the asrock 8320 md gsa bottom-of-the-barrel motherboard has a calm and a printer port it clearly costs money to solder the connector yet it is only included in the lower margin cheaper motherboard being cheaper doesn't mean it's lower margin necessarily but so we've talked about this before but when we last asked the motherboard contacts we have about this motherboard makers have in the past told us that a lot of this depends on the region they're targeting for the board so legacy ports make a lot of sense on boards that are being sold in manufacturing heavy regions like China and Taiwan where a lot of the machinery that they use is still hooked up via something like calm and they want that port there so last time we asked about this it was sort of a ton in cheek like why is that there but it was a good answer and it was because their customers and other regions do actually need those ports so that is a big consideration a lot of the factories still run on older i/o interfaces serial comm are also very useful for debug and sometimes it gets left on there I don't know if it's just cheaper or what but another example is in the rapid what is it called pick-and-place machines those I don't know if they sort of spool it up for something and then they just keep putting them on the boards because it's cheaper to rearrange everything than it is to pull the common serial stuff out of there but either way it seems like the region-specific stuff is more of the consideration last time we asked that anyway and that was a couple years ago but same idea tobe Ricky said can too many case fans actually make your PC cooling worse yes definitely especially if they're not configured in a good way so this was a good example of this would be something like even the half acts an older case that was pretty airflow focused putting fans on the top in the wrong orientation should be intake or exhaust will definitely hurt your performance you start ending up with vortexes forming sometimes where the hotter air will recirculate so the BitFenix and so is a good recent example of this that we showed where because the front panel is completely closed off the fan actually the fan mounted to the front because they can't get access to air from outside it actually ends up pulling air in from inside the case so after the hairs been warmed up and generally blown out of like the GPU or the the back of the CPU cooler although generally that more of a radiative heat issue off the back of the video card it's pulling air from there because it can't get air anywhere else so all the pressures just it's sucking air forward through the case up into an intake fan and getting pushed back into the case and so having a fan to high up in that area the front of the case and so did end up with much worse thermals and that's an example of where where that can occur also if you end up doing something like again top exhaust so let's say you want to fill all your fan boards at least the ones on the top and you have maybe three intake and three top exhaust something like that the exhaust towards the front of the case if it's a tower air cooler will steal more air from the front intake then it will help with getting rid of warm air so if you think of this as the front of the cases as a top air comes in and gets pulled out immediately as it enters so it never makes it to the CPU tower cooler typically for exhaust fans on the top if you're gonna have them we like to have them behind the CPU cooler because that's where the warm air is not in front of it because it doesn't actually help unless you really need some pressure to pull the area and maybe if you have a bottom intake you'd some pressure at the top to pull the air up and through the cooler but otherwise that's pretty uncommon scenario except for like the rvs RV o – or something like that definitely – many fans can make cooling a lot worse next one nori said what is the one downside as if there's one of moving out of the GN layer and into a commercial office outside of Payne for a lease and moving the Moving's actually been an upside because it's allowed us to rearrange things the way I want from scratch rather than have to work within the confines of stuff that's been there for a decade so that types you've been an upside so I was doing inventory stuff like that so we know what we have and give us some more content ideas things like that have had a lot of content ideas come out of the move because I've seen all this stuff where it's like oh yeah we have that and that would be really cool to do something with downsides probably Internet's a bit of a downgrade it's not that bad so well it's bad in terms of price but it's not as bad in terms of the upload download we can't get as much upload download I've gigabit for residential and that's significantly more expensive for commercial so tight bit of a downgrade there fortunately the server side of things like YouTube does bottleneck anyway so if residential is a gigabit the most we ever got out of YouTube was 300 megabits up which is a lot but it would tend to average closer to 200 or 250 so you don't you having a gigabit unless you're pushing uploads to multiple servers at once didn't really matter all that much it's really a couple hundred megabits you want ideally so internets probably the biggest one though and then David asked there have been a few videos where you said you were specifically not under NDA any NDA and – has also said that in a few instances of course you can only speak for yourself but are there are you actually honest about that or would you say that exactly because the NDA doesn't allow you to talk about it so when I say we're not under an NDA it's honest because there's no reason not to say for know how to hurt an NDA there's no obligation not to say that if you're an under NDA you either don't address the question or there's specific language in the NDAA that says what you can and can't talk about and it doesn't make any sense if you're under one to say you're not under one it makes more sense to ignore the question or answer it in some other way so yeah if I say I'm not under an NDA it's that's accurate generally we're probably under some kind of embargo for something that most times but you know if you're specific with the question then if I'm not under one I'll let you know I think line of same thing for him based on the times I've seen him talk about it but I can't can't speak for him obviously mod Z says what do you think about Nvidia finally changing the GTX branding on selects new models of GPUs 3 – GeForce RTX I feel we've been stuck on GeForce GTX before so long I'm actually really glad they're finally changing things up as a note I really do hope they at some point start read restart the numbering system so we don't end up with 5 digit skews one day and I hope they bring back the ultra branding yeah 8800 Ultra was a really good card and the last time I remember seeing that Brandon and I meaningful way five digits cues aren't gonna happen I don't think probably they'll restart the numbering just like they have done several times previously for all these companies so I wouldn't worry about that GeForce r-tx versus GTX is part of Nvidia's push to make ray-tracing the next big thing they've they've been talking about ray tracing for decades at this point but the company it's Nvidia specifically brought up ray tracing I think in a 2012 or 2013 keynote that I covered where Tony Tomas he still had on video today did a keynote and talked about ray tracing being on target for real-time rendering real-time rendering of ray tracing by 2015 miss the boat on that one but not too far off so it looks more like 2018-2019 will have some form of real-time ray tracing rendering it's just it's it kind of depends on how many traces you're taking and how many samples you're taking they're doing stuff like denoising to improve the performance so depending our definition of real-time ray tracing it's kind of here anyway RT X is a further push by Nvidia to make ray tracing the next big thing and ray tracing can actually use tensor cores like what the Titan V has so that's a bit interesting because previously you see tensor core you just assume it's only for deep learning machine learning nothing Iles but it can be used for ray tracing so might see some of those on the GTX equivalent cards but not positive yet we'll know more in the future RT X is I think going to be a hard name to get used to for me because I've been calling on the GTX for so long GTX sounds better but I guess RT X is what we're gonna call it if it's Nvidia's new ray tracing targeted whatever they're trying to do with it I is all just branding and the Nvidia is trying to establish ray trace and as the thing to be excited about because I guess you always need something new to be excited about with any new processor if it's just it plays games better than I don't know maybe that gets boring to them at some point and then the last one daemon met one says what are your thoughts on the recent case labs announcement that they are closing permanently pretty sad we got in one of their SMA eights like I don't know a couple weeks before that was announced so they probably knew that it was gonna close at that point or we're getting close to it anyway so we'll do something with the case it'll it'll be more of a post-mortem at this point but definitely the case that was made high quality stuff business model was a bit rough everything is extremely expensive it's meticulously made and it's just I don't you can't have a giant audience that I think they said they had 20,000 customers or something like that which is pretty damn good but sad to lose a smaller and innovative company in the space it's just I think it was kind of a mix of things like the tariffs they claims really increase their metal prices stuff like that I believe it based on what we've seen so tariffs didn't help them and then the business model in general was targeted to pretty expensive stuff and so your audience audience size will shrink over time if there's not a really compelling reason to buy that kind of thing because the problem with making products that lasts forever is that people don't buy nuance let's problem logitech used to have with the g5 Mouse and if if it just lasts for years and years and you don't need to buy another case ever then the audience for them is is going to be some somewhat transient so that's it for this one leave your questions in the comment section below as always thanks for watching go to store documents access net to pick up one of our GN beer glasses in cobalt blue with the gold trim or one of our mod mats or shirts and subscribe for more I'll see you all 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